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Laurie Anderson and Lou Reed: 3 Rules to Live By.

Ty Nathan Clark and Nathan Terborg Season 2 Episode 10

What if the rules you live by are holding you back rather than guiding you? Join us as we dive into the complex relationship between rules, creativity, and personal freedom. Inspired by Laurie Anderson and Lou Reed's three profound rules—don’t be afraid of anyone, get a good bullshit detector, and be really tender—we kick off a conversation that challenges conventional thinking. Ty opens up about how childhood trauma influenced his rebellious spirit and artistic path, shedding light on the necessity of setting your own guidelines to foster genuine creativity and authenticity.

We delve into the dual nature of rules, examining them both as constraints and guiding principles. With a compelling quote from Jim Rohn—emphasizing the importance of designing your own life plan—we explore the delicate balance between societal expectations and personal constraints. Whether you're an artist, a business owner, or someone on a personal growth journey, this episode offers actionable insights on crafting your unique path. Don't miss this thought-provoking discussion on the art of living by your own rules and staying true to your principles.

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Laurie Anderson:

Tanya Cushman Reviewer. Reviewer. Tanya Cushman Reviewer. I'm reminded also of the three rules that we came up with, rules to live by, and I'm just going to tell you what they are because they come in really handy because things happen so fast. You know, it's good to have a few like catch words to fall back on. You know, and don't have enough time to think. And the first is one don't be afraid of anyone. Now, can you imagine living your life afraid of no one? Two get a really good bullshit detector and learn how to use it. And three, three is be really, really tender. And with those three things you don't need anything else.

Nathan Terborg:

Let's talk about rules Ty. I personally am a huge fan of rules, Love rules.

Ty Nathan Clark:

I hate rules there's a specific.

Nathan Terborg:

Well, let me be clear. There's a specific type of rule that I love and follow, and those are the rules that I've set for myself. I love the rules that I decide I'm going to follow, and my wife and other people in my life would agree begrudgingly to my adherence to my rules and not really any others, but this is going to be a really fun conversation.

Nathan Terborg:

I think that this quote by Laurie Anderson discussing something that her and Lou Reed decided on, and it's beautiful, and so this is going to be our jumping off quote for the day and kind of going to drive our conversation, but rules your thoughts. You're not a fan, it sounds.

Ty Nathan Clark:

I mean I've broken a lot of rules. I would say most of them weren't because I wanted to. It just happened to be the way that I guess my personality formed after trauma as a child became rule-breaking and disobedient and nobody's ever going to tell me what to do type of attitude. But I think that also formed in me some things for when I became an artist, to realize like I need to set my own rules and I think that's kind of what you're saying as well is. You know, obviously there are rules we need to follow. There are laws, there are things we need to adhere to in life. But as far as people saying, do this, don't do that, do this, you should do this rule wise, as an artist I tend to say you're not telling me what I can do or can't do. I'm going to pave my own road and do it my way. Does that make sense?

Nathan Terborg:

Yeah, 100%, yeah. I mean, I think rules can have a very I mean for me, for us a very negative connotation, but we could also, I think, agree that rule is synonymous with a principle, a guideline, a mantra, a sort of true north of sorts, and that has tremendous value. I'm going to throw my first supporting quote in the mix here and we'll just get into it. But this is a quote by an individual named Jim Rohn who was a self-development sort of business author and speaker back in the day. But Jim said if you don't design your own life plan, chances are you'll fall into someone else's plan and guess what they have planned for you? Not much, yeah. Now for context. He spoke and kind of addressed a lot of people who are, whatever self-employed, kind of charting their own course, business owners, whatever.

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